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that's what romney did last night. every time obama said you have a $5 trillion tax cut, he said no i don't. the truth is we don't know what it is. as he's running for president, i think it's information that we're frankly entitled to. >> let me play another clip. the president criticized romney for a lack of specifics in the tax plan and wall street reform and health care. that's how that went down. >> my experience as a governor is if i come in and lay down a piece of legislation and say, it's my way or the highway, i don't get a lot done. what i do is the same way that tip o'neal and ronald reagan worked together some years ago. when ronald reagan ran for office, he laid out the principles that he was going to foster. >> so it's about principles, not actual hard plans. in a million years did you ever think that a victory could come out of this debate base odd vagueness? i ask that because knowing in we knew all of the weapons both could quite honestly use and weapons the moderator would have available to press both
that's what romney did last night. every time obama said you have a $5 trillion tax cut, he said no i don't. the truth is we don't know what it is. as he's running for president, i think it's information that we're frankly entitled to. >> let me play another clip. the president criticized romney for a lack of specifics in the tax plan and wall street reform and health care. that's how that went down. >> my experience as a governor is if i come in and lay down a piece of legislation...
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governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. but what i'm most concerned about is having a serious discussion. about what we need to do to keep the country growing and restore security for hardworking americans. that's what people are going to be listening for. that's the debate that you deserve. >> reporter: as you know, a lot of people will be watching, so there'll be a big audience. but both candidates are trying to target a small audience. because you have republicans on the right, they know who they're going to vote for, those on the left, they know who they're going to vote for. independent voters lean one way or the other, so we're talking about a small group of those undecided voters. and both sides will be working very hard not to make mistakes and to try to score some key points. >> just quickly, what's the president doing to work on those lengthy answers that he tends to give. very clinton-like because, look, you don't have unlimited time on that stage. >> reporter: you don't. and you know, for a couple
governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. but what i'm most concerned about is having a serious discussion. about what we need to do to keep the country growing and restore security for hardworking americans. that's what people are going to be listening for. that's the debate that you deserve. >> reporter: as you know, a lot of people will be watching, so there'll be a big audience. but both candidates are trying to target a small audience. because you have republicans on the...
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mitt romney must accomplish a lot on wednesday night to begin to alter this race across the board. romney's team is loading him up with a bunch of zingers for the debate according to to "the new york times." romney has memorized these zingers and has been practicing them on aids since august. romney obviously did well enough in the primary debates to make it this far, no doubt. although most of his competition wasn't as tough as president obama. romney also had some memorable moments. >> i'll tell you what. $10,000 bet? >> i'm not in the betting business. >> the answer is self-deportation, which is people decide they can do better by going home because they can't find work here because they don't have legal departmentation to allow them to work here. >> i can't have illegals. rick, i'm speaking. i'm speaking. you get 30 seconds. this is the way the rules work here is i get 60 seconds. and then you get 30 seconds to respond, right? >> well, let's bring in democratic strategist chris ko kofinis and susan del percio. i think romney is going to lose his cool. susan, did governor chris
mitt romney must accomplish a lot on wednesday night to begin to alter this race across the board. romney's team is loading him up with a bunch of zingers for the debate according to to "the new york times." romney has memorized these zingers and has been practicing them on aids since august. romney obviously did well enough in the primary debates to make it this far, no doubt. although most of his competition wasn't as tough as president obama. romney also had some memorable moments....
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for your him it had to begin wednesday night in denver. romney had just a rough three weeks. he's had a rough three months. you could argue that romney hasn't, quote, won a month in this campaign since may or june. a trailing campaign has just a handful of opportunities to fundamentally change the trajectory of a race. it's losing. barring an october surprise, the three debates that kick off wednesday night are romney's last chance. the president rallied supporters sunday night kicking off his eighth trip to nevada this year before 00 kwering down for two full days for debate prep at a lakeside resort in suburban las vegas. >> you may have heard that in a few days my opponent in this election and i are going to have a debate. i know folks in the media are speculating already on who's going to have the best zingers. >> you are. >> i don't know about that. >> both campaigns from the candidates on down have been frantically spinning to lower expectations for wednesday night. >> governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> president obama is a very experienced speaker,
for your him it had to begin wednesday night in denver. romney had just a rough three weeks. he's had a rough three months. you could argue that romney hasn't, quote, won a month in this campaign since may or june. a trailing campaign has just a handful of opportunities to fundamentally change the trajectory of a race. it's losing. barring an october surprise, the three debates that kick off wednesday night are romney's last chance. the president rallied supporters sunday night kicking off his...
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governor romney having a good night. but some of the possible reasons that the president was off his game are raising some eyebrows. here is former vice president al gore. >> obama arrived in denver at 2:00 p.m. today just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when go to 5,000 feet and you only have a few hours to adjust, i don't know. maybe -- >> bret: so again, the former vice president said it was the amount do you do. bob woodward, who published a behind the scenes book about president obama has another theory. >> something happened. maybe in foreign affairs, they got some intelligence report or something -- who knows? but i think as the onion gets peeled on this, we'll find that something happened in his presidential or personal life that distracted him. >> bret: just a look back, you may remember president obama cracked one liners at the white house correspondence dinner right after giving the green light for the osama bin laden raid. >>> the air traffic controllers union and
governor romney having a good night. but some of the possible reasons that the president was off his game are raising some eyebrows. here is former vice president al gore. >> obama arrived in denver at 2:00 p.m. today just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when go to 5,000 feet and you only have a few hours to adjust, i don't know. maybe -- >> bret: so again, the former vice president said it was the amount do you do. bob woodward, who...
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george will writes romney is behind so on wednesday night it might be risky for romney not to take risks. which is a lot of risk in one sentence. do you think romg will go out there? i mean given his behavior thus far? >> historically the defirst debate is the first time a challenger has a chance to stance on stage on a level playing for field for a couple hours with the incumbent president and it's been the challenger's best debate. so just by showing up, you would think that romney's a slight favorite right now. we have seen obama recently in a higher position than he's been in all year, maybe higher than you would expect based on where the economy is. so i do think romney should have a tail wind at the same time the stuff we're mentioning where he also has tried to avoid articulating where his positions are on a lot of issues, a lot that is common sense but if you take positions further away from the center that damages you and he's not done a lot of running to the center at all in this campaign. that's unusual and he'll be proebds for more detail during the debate. >> the american pu
george will writes romney is behind so on wednesday night it might be risky for romney not to take risks. which is a lot of risk in one sentence. do you think romg will go out there? i mean given his behavior thus far? >> historically the defirst debate is the first time a challenger has a chance to stance on stage on a level playing for field for a couple hours with the incumbent president and it's been the challenger's best debate. so just by showing up, you would think that romney's a...
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the romney of last night or the romney of the past two months? >> this has to give him a lift, right? >> yeah, a lift, the confidence that he didn't have before, perhaps. we'll see. >> jim vandehei, thanks so much, jim. we'll talk to you later. >> take care. >>> coming up next, it only took them 162 games, but the oakland a's last night caught up and passed the texas rangers. >> that's unbelievable. moneyball. >> capturing the a.l. west title on the final day of the season. we'll have that and the rest of the playoff picture in sports. >> the red sox almost did that last night. >>> before we get to sports, let's check in with music city, usa, where it's 5:38 in the morning. jon meacham, are you still awake and with us? >> oh, hey. >> good. jon, where's lunch today? if i were you, i'd go to rotier's or loveless, but your call. >> i'm a longtime rotier's fan. the other is ledbetter's. >> don't forget, rotier's has american cheese and crackers as their lead appetizer. >> ritz. that's the difference. that's the difference. think of the markup on that
the romney of last night or the romney of the past two months? >> this has to give him a lift, right? >> yeah, a lift, the confidence that he didn't have before, perhaps. we'll see. >> jim vandehei, thanks so much, jim. we'll talk to you later. >> take care. >>> coming up next, it only took them 162 games, but the oakland a's last night caught up and passed the texas rangers. >> that's unbelievable. moneyball. >> capturing the a.l. west title on the...
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governor romney has to shake things up wednesday night. doesn't he? >> he's going to, i mean, every time mitt romney has been confronted in this campaign with one of these moments, he has come through in the debate and performed extraordinarily well. laying out his vision very clearly, and contrasting himself and his vision to whoever the opponent was at that time. when we get to thursday morning, you'll be saying it's a brand-new race with 33 days to go. >> the more we see of governor romney the more voters are going to like him, that hasn't happened yet. on the one hand he has to be assertive with the president but likable with voters. how does that happen? >> be truthful. if you tell the truth about what's going on in our country, people are going to understand that's critical of the president's stewardship, but also to lay out a positive and hopeful vision for what the future can be for our children and grandchildren under a romney administration. i think he can do both. romney can walk and chew gum at the same time. i'm not worried. >> how do you
governor romney has to shake things up wednesday night. doesn't he? >> he's going to, i mean, every time mitt romney has been confronted in this campaign with one of these moments, he has come through in the debate and performed extraordinarily well. laying out his vision very clearly, and contrasting himself and his vision to whoever the opponent was at that time. when we get to thursday morning, you'll be saying it's a brand-new race with 33 days to go. >> the more we see of...
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president obama and governor romney spent a lot of time talking about taxes last night and brought up a lost numbers in the process. coming up, we will breakdown some of the figures and find out which each man's tax proposals would actually do. plus, syria's civil war has now spilled over the border into turkey. turkey has fired back. now leaders are saying more attacks could be on the way. the latest as the conflict threatens to go regional. next. @ >>trace: turkish forces are striking syrian targets for a second straight day the most dramatic escalation of tension since the syrian revolt began a year ago. you can see the turkish firing shots in return for a bomb from syria that killed five turkey residents including a six-year old boys. officials in syria are calling this shelling a tragic accident. still, turkish lawmakers today voted to authorize cross border attacks. in the united states, secretary of state, hillary clinton, called the turkish foreign minister and pled the united states support. syria was the ally of turkey but now it is a bitter enemy after syria erupted in a bl
president obama and governor romney spent a lot of time talking about taxes last night and brought up a lost numbers in the process. coming up, we will breakdown some of the figures and find out which each man's tax proposals would actually do. plus, syria's civil war has now spilled over the border into turkey. turkey has fired back. now leaders are saying more attacks could be on the way. the latest as the conflict threatens to go regional. next. @ >>trace: turkish forces are striking...
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mitt romney countered barack obama last night. came back at the president in a respectful way and the president didn't have answers. it was a win on substance last night. martha: you are obviously a unique political player and observer of this process. you are the co-chair of president obama's campaign back in 2008. what brought you to the place you are now as a supporter and surrogate for mitt romney just four years later? >> i'm like about 7 million americans who voted for the president who don't plan to do so again. i'm like many americans who were democrat at one point who moved away from the democratic party. the democratic party ideas. part of it is policy. part of it is ideology and part of it is results. last night was a debate about result. what was telling to me. at no point did president obama lay out a case for what a second term is going to look like. i heard president obama say he was going to do one thing in his second term. he's going to raise some taxes in the second term that he didn't get around to raising in th
mitt romney countered barack obama last night. came back at the president in a respectful way and the president didn't have answers. it was a win on substance last night. martha: you are obviously a unique political player and observer of this process. you are the co-chair of president obama's campaign back in 2008. what brought you to the place you are now as a supporter and surrogate for mitt romney just four years later? >> i'm like about 7 million americans who voted for the president...
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tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 . >>> paul ryan foolishly set mitt romney up for a big fail in wednesday night's debate by claiming that no one, no one wants to hear the math on the romney/ryan tax plan. sam stein and jonathan cape heart will join me. and arnold schwarzenegger in the rewrite tonight. . >>> the problem we've had is not everybody knows all the specification we've put out there. not everybody knows these plans, our five-point plan for a stronger middle class. >> of course no one knows the specifics of mitt romney and paul ryan's tax plan because they haven't given any specifics. even fox news chris wallace wants more details on how the romney/ryan tax plan would actually work. >> well, how much would it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> we'll get to the deductions, but the cut in tax rates. >> the cut in tax rates is lower all americans' tax rates by 20%. >> how much does that cost. >> it's revenue neutral. >> it's not revenue neutral unless you take away from the deduction. the first half lowering the tax rates, does that cost $5 trillion? >> no. i won't get into a baseline argume
tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 . >>> paul ryan foolishly set mitt romney up for a big fail in wednesday night's debate by claiming that no one, no one wants to hear the math on the romney/ryan tax plan. sam stein and jonathan cape heart will join me. and arnold schwarzenegger in the rewrite tonight. . >>> the problem we've had is not everybody knows all the specification we've put out there. not everybody knows these plans, our five-point plan for a stronger middle class. >> of...
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obama and the republicans leading up to wednesday night. >> they have and mitt romney has been doing his level best to kind of lowering expectation. the enthusiasm from chris christie and paul ryan may be run counter to the candidate's desire and lower the bar and make it easier for him to appear to overachieve. the romney campaign recognizes the polls haven't been going their way and talked a long time the debates will be an important moment. and paul ryan was essentially trying to set the stage for mitt romney by framing the issues as the romney-ryan ticket sees them, almost five weeks away. >> we can either have a dynamic growing economy that produces opportunity or a stagnant economy that fosssters dependency. we can stick with the failed policies of the last four years, or a brighter future. stagnation versus growth. dependency versus opportunity and upward mobility. that's a classic choice, a clear difference that we're offering. >> romney returns to boston for the weekend and this morning, church and debate prep and tomorrow off to denver getting ready for the face-off on wedn
obama and the republicans leading up to wednesday night. >> they have and mitt romney has been doing his level best to kind of lowering expectation. the enthusiasm from chris christie and paul ryan may be run counter to the candidate's desire and lower the bar and make it easier for him to appear to overachieve. the romney campaign recognizes the polls haven't been going their way and talked a long time the debates will be an important moment. and paul ryan was essentially trying to set...
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this is a big, big debate on wednesday night. this is much bigger than the mccain-obama debate. >> today mitt romney traveled from boston to colorado where the debate will be held as a major player in romney's fund raiser confirmed to fox business that a few new york donors have backed away from financial commitments to the romney campaign and instead said they will spend their money to help the republicans hold on to the house of representatives and pick up seats in the senate. the debates will be very important, said one person with knowledge of the matter. if romney does well, that money could come back. >>> new jersey's governor, chris christie the current front runner for the presidential nomination 2016 has decided his job is to state the obvious. >> it's a huge night. we've had a bad couple of weeks and we want to turn this around and if you want to turn it around you've got to perform on the stage. they try to say the president is not that good a debater or mitt romney is a little scared of the president. those are the pr
this is a big, big debate on wednesday night. this is much bigger than the mccain-obama debate. >> today mitt romney traveled from boston to colorado where the debate will be held as a major player in romney's fund raiser confirmed to fox business that a few new york donors have backed away from financial commitments to the romney campaign and instead said they will spend their money to help the republicans hold on to the house of representatives and pick up seats in the senate. the...
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i hope romney does a solid performance on wednesday night. i don't look for anything that's going to be huge home runs. i think he will do well. jobes, the economy, this out-of-control issue with libya, the national security, people are watching that. 43 months of above 8% unemployment. i think it is very difficult for the president. i think these states are going to be very close. and my hope is that we're going to push forward with the win. >> don't be over-confident. go out there ask work very hard. i agree this is going to be a close election. it could brea break open. if romney doesn't do well wednesday night this election could break open. i think it goes beyond issues and the alienation of people medicare issues and things like that. a republican friend of mine publicly says the fundamental problem isn't that people don't like him, it's that people think romney doesn't like them. that comes from the 47% tape. it comes from a number of other incidents. so in this debate he has somehow or other got to make people sense he feels and under
i hope romney does a solid performance on wednesday night. i don't look for anything that's going to be huge home runs. i think he will do well. jobes, the economy, this out-of-control issue with libya, the national security, people are watching that. 43 months of above 8% unemployment. i think it is very difficult for the president. i think these states are going to be very close. and my hope is that we're going to push forward with the win. >> don't be over-confident. go out there ask...
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we have expected all along that governor romney will have a good night. he is prepared more than any candidate in history. and he has shown himself to be a very good debater through the years. so we understand that this is an important moment. we're just going to continue to make the case we have throughout the campaign, through the convention, to the american people. governor romney, they say he has practiced zingers and lines for months and months. we're sure he'll put on a show on wednesday night. >> you played a huge role in 2008 in debate prep. what have you told the president? there's an incumbent trap. don't fall into it. what does he have to do right? >> challengers benefit from this, being on the same stage has traditionally benefited the challenger. so the president is not worried about zingers and lines. he's got time with the american people to explain his case for re-election, about what he wants to do on the economy, how to focus on the middle class. that's what we've done through the whole campaign. it's been consistent day after day trying
we have expected all along that governor romney will have a good night. he is prepared more than any candidate in history. and he has shown himself to be a very good debater through the years. so we understand that this is an important moment. we're just going to continue to make the case we have throughout the campaign, through the convention, to the american people. governor romney, they say he has practiced zingers and lines for months and months. we're sure he'll put on a show on wednesday...
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mitt romney landed in colorado last night and scored the endorsement of the big guy. the legendary quarterback and now executive vice president of football operations john elway. it was the only scheduled talk. it was a stealth bomber in the background there. romney tried to tamp down expectations in the back. >> people want to know who is going to win? who is going to score the punches and who is going to make the biggest difference in the arguments they make? in my view, it's not so much winning or losing or even the people themselves. it's about something bigger than that. these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward for america that we would choose. >> playing off the enthusiastic crowd. romney had lines for the base. may even tested out a few zingers we might hear wednesday night. >> this is a home to focus on the family which is committed to preserving the foundation of america. we have to get the pipe laine from canada if i have to build it myself. >> it will kill america's entrepreneurship. >> that's the first time, by the wa
mitt romney landed in colorado last night and scored the endorsement of the big guy. the legendary quarterback and now executive vice president of football operations john elway. it was the only scheduled talk. it was a stealth bomber in the background there. romney tried to tamp down expectations in the back. >> people want to know who is going to win? who is going to score the punches and who is going to make the biggest difference in the arguments they make? in my view, it's not so...
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. >> we've expected all along that governor romney will have a good night. he's prepared more than any candidate in history and shown himself to be a very good debater for the years. >> i think for us to raise the expectation he's got to do something spectacular, those things don't happen in debates anymore, there's a spectacular event or gaffe. they're too well rehearsed. >> mitt will be out there and aggressive as all get out. joining me via skype to talk about the strategy, wayne, a professor of political rhetoric in washington university and st. louis the author of "union of words a history of presidential eloquence". thank you for your time. senator mccain says the folks are too rehearsed these days and at the end of the comment he says what do i know, i lost the debate he said in humor, of course. the notion that they're so rehearsed with the answers that there's no chance for any kind of big moment? >> i think that's right, although it's still the case that we learn a good deal from the debates and some unscripted moments, i think, but generally what
. >> we've expected all along that governor romney will have a good night. he's prepared more than any candidate in history and shown himself to be a very good debater for the years. >> i think for us to raise the expectation he's got to do something spectacular, those things don't happen in debates anymore, there's a spectacular event or gaffe. they're too well rehearsed. >> mitt will be out there and aggressive as all get out. joining me via skype to talk about the strategy,...
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governor romney needed to energize his base. he did that last night. will this have an impact on swing voters? one thing democrats are saying today in the focus groups and dial groups and polling last night looking at swing voters they say there was not a noticeable shift. maybe a few said governor romney was impressive, but they didn't see a big flood toward governor romney. wolf, make no question about this the president went into this debate with a little wind on his back, governor romney comes out having taken that wind away. >> quickly, john, a lot of democrats said to me today they're really worried that the president's lackluster performance last night may have hurt down ticket candidate, senate democrats for example who may be having serious problems. this could energize the republicans in a state like massachusetts, for example, scott brown in his race against elizabeth warren, they're worried that the president's performance last night could hurt some of those vulnerable senate democrats. >> and that is of course the very same dynamic we were
governor romney needed to energize his base. he did that last night. will this have an impact on swing voters? one thing democrats are saying today in the focus groups and dial groups and polling last night looking at swing voters they say there was not a noticeable shift. maybe a few said governor romney was impressive, but they didn't see a big flood toward governor romney. wolf, make no question about this the president went into this debate with a little wind on his back, governor romney...
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>> this was mitt romney's night. he was sharp. he was specific. he had a plan of attack. and he went after barack obama every way he could, and holding him accountable for the obama record. we haven't seen that too much in this campaign. there's been so many personal attacks. so many back and forth. he was able to say, look, this is what you promised four years ago. where is the gap here? most importantly, he's able to say, this is the choice i'm offering. and he was able to control this debate. >> did you think that romney will see a bounce coming out of this, the way that obama had a bounce coming out of the convention, in charlotte, with bill clinton's famous speech? >> he is looking for a comeback moment. what happens next is going to be important. he's going to be giving a speech on foreign policy. he'll be asked about this in interviews in the coming days. if he can build on this, yes. he will start to close the gap. the romney campaign, just happened just at the right moment for them to capitalize on something. knowing you have five weeks left. there's a couple of
>> this was mitt romney's night. he was sharp. he was specific. he had a plan of attack. and he went after barack obama every way he could, and holding him accountable for the obama record. we haven't seen that too much in this campaign. there's been so many personal attacks. so many back and forth. he was able to say, look, this is what you promised four years ago. where is the gap here? most importantly, he's able to say, this is the choice i'm offering. and he was able to control this...
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this as mitt romney tries to turn a single night's work into a turning point in the election. we'll discuss it all. >>> when we come back here, we'll huddle around the water cooler to watch stephen colbert celebrate mitt romney's debate win with a big old studio rave. "way too early" coming right back. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. >>> we told you the top of the show that the fight over tax plans has become a central issue in the presidential campaign in part because of the looming fiscal cliff that faces the country at the end of this year. that includes an expiration of the bush era tax cuts. congress is expected to delay voting on some of the fiscal issues until 2013, leaving whomever is elected on november 6th to deal with the problem. according to the tax policy center, if no changes are made to the budget to alleviate the fiscal cliff measures, taxe
this as mitt romney tries to turn a single night's work into a turning point in the election. we'll discuss it all. >>> when we come back here, we'll huddle around the water cooler to watch stephen colbert celebrate mitt romney's debate win with a big old studio rave. "way too early" coming right back. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring...